The first line that started the song was “You like New York City in the daytime / I like New York City in the nighttime,” and once we found that line, we started going off on finding these little things that make us different from each other, but they’re not deal-breakers. You know, we have differences with people, but it doesn’t mean we can’t get along, it doesn’t mean that [they] have to tear us apart and we can use them to keep us together and make us stronger.

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For a long time, I had kind of wanted to write a song about our differences. The hard thing with songwriting, which I’ve come to conclusion on my own, is that it’s hard to write songs with a message that don’t feel too preachy or too cheesy, or just don’t feel honest.

So when we were writing this song, it kind of happened based on a conversation with my co-writer, how we were both going to New York in a couple weeks. We were talking about how some people are like, New York people, and some people can’t live in the city. Like, it’s impossible.

We started coming up with these little things that we all relate to, you know like, the air conditioning … And some people like it on, some people like it off, and it was just those little things that we’re like, yeah we all relate to them and we definitely have those preferences, one over the other, but it doesn’t mean we can’t get along. And if we take these little differences and we can get past them, then, you know, we work towards the bigger ones, and kind of coming together in a way instead of letting them diverge us.

I had some tender greens, and I was in the studio. I was with Jonas Jeberg and Brett, who we co-wrote the song with. It was a very sunny day. It was kind of like an afternoon, and the whole thing about the song is that it feels bright in a way, even though it’s kind of a little bit dark. And, it’s a little bit electronic. There’s something about it that feels a little bit hopeful, at least for me. And it feels kind of sentimental in a way. So, we started it with that first line, “You like New York City in the daytime, I like New York City in the nighttime.” And then from then on out just, it was a story about opposites.