He certainly did earn that reputation.
Now here you go again
You say you want your freedom
Well, who am I to keep you down?
It's only right that you should
Play the way you feel it
But listen carefully
To the sound of your loneliness
Like a heartbeat drives you mad
In the stillness of remembering what you had
And what you lost
And what you had
And what you lost
Oh, thunder only happens when it's rainin'
Players only love you when they're playin'
Say women, they will come and they will go
When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
You'll know
Now here I go again
I see the crystal visions
I keep my visions to myself
It's only me who wants to wrap around your dreams
And have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Dreams of loneliness
Like a heartbeat drives you mad
In the stillness of remembering what you had
And what you lost
And what you had
Ooh, what you lost
Thunder only happens when it's rainin'
Players only love you when they're playin'
Women, they will come and they will go
When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
Oh, thunder only happens when it's rainin'
Players only love you when they're playin'
Say women, they will come and they will go
When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
You'll know
You will know
Oh, you'll know
You say you want your freedom
Well, who am I to keep you down?
It's only right that you should
Play the way you feel it
But listen carefully
To the sound of your loneliness
Like a heartbeat drives you mad
In the stillness of remembering what you had
And what you lost
And what you had
And what you lost
Oh, thunder only happens when it's rainin'
Players only love you when they're playin'
Say women, they will come and they will go
When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
You'll know
Now here I go again
I see the crystal visions
I keep my visions to myself
It's only me who wants to wrap around your dreams
And have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Dreams of loneliness
Like a heartbeat drives you mad
In the stillness of remembering what you had
And what you lost
And what you had
Ooh, what you lost
Thunder only happens when it's rainin'
Players only love you when they're playin'
Women, they will come and they will go
When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
Oh, thunder only happens when it's rainin'
Players only love you when they're playin'
Say women, they will come and they will go
When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
You'll know
You will know
Oh, you'll know
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Stevie Nicks said in an interview she wrote this song about Lindsay Buckingham towards the end of their relationship when it was at its most turbulent. She said the 'meaning' of the song was an invitation for him to leave their relationship if he chose to because she wanted out likewise. He wrote a song in reply which was the now famous Fleetwood Mac song "Go your own way," which is basically about the same thing as Dreams, but in Stevie's words, more blunt and insensitive. So much so, 'Go your own way' just offended and upset Nicks even more because she believed her song "Dream's" was a polite way of breaking up, quite unlike Lindsay's more forceful and offensive break-up retort.
Finally someone with the correct meaning. That is what she said. This is why fleetwood mac is so genius. This was Mick's band, but Mick let Stevie and Lindsey write all the songs because he saw how powerful they were together. <br /> <br /> You can also relate this song to their other songs, "Go your own way", "Never going back again". It's like a story if you put it all together.
christ<br /> I've just been introduced Fleetwood Mac a little over a few weeks ago and never knew how much drama has went on in this band
@Ishmal She also said she was offended and upset about it also because of the line "Packing up and shacking up is all you want to do" from Go Your Own Way, saying that it wasn't true that she wanted to go and shack up with other guys. In response to Go Your Own Way, Stevie wrote "Silver Springs", and it was just as angry. But because Lindsey didn't like how that song made him feel, he and the rest of the band took it off of the record and didn't tell her until they decided to replace it with "I Don't Wanna Know", which was an older song from when Lindsey and Stevie were a duet, before they joined Fleetwood. Mick took her out to the parking lot and told her in private that they took out "Silver Springs" and the reason was because it was too long, but she was okay with cutting down its length so that it could be included, but he told her they were they were going to replace it with "I Don't Want to Know" anyway, and she could either sing on it, leave it off and only have 2 songs on the album, let only Lindsey song on it by himself, or basically fuck off.<br /> To this day, she's still upset about its omission from the album. <br /> Lindsey Buckingham has always had the temper of a petulant child.<br /> It was always either his way or the highway. <br /> And because he didn't like the way "Silver Springs" made him feel, he threw a trantrum and made them take it off, even though "Go Your Own Way" is just as angry as it was.<br /> Moreover, to add insult to injury, they decided to put "Silver Springs" as the b-side to the "Go Your Own Way" single.<br /> I think what was messed up even more than their deciding to take it off the album was that they decided it in secret, when Stevie wasn't in the studio with them/wasn't needed in the studio that day.<br /> Moreover, what caused Stevie to leave the band was that in the late 80s/early 90s, Stevie wanted to include "Silver Springs" on a compilation/greatest hits album of her solo career, but Mick told her no because he wanted to put it on a box set ("25 Years- The Chain").<br /> <br /> She ended up getting slight revenge when it was released as a single and became a minor hit when they released it from the live album "The Dance".<br /> <br /> Personally, I probably would have threatened to leave Fleetwood Mac if it wasn't included on Rumours and taken my songs with me if they still didn't relent.
@Ishmal @Ishmal I always thought go your own way was just a song about unhappy love, not a breakup. It's really how your interpret it, there is no real meaning of this song, it can be taken down very differently
Cursed "forever"? Well, that was a bit strong. Stevie does hold out for Lindsey a thin thread of hope: "When the rain washes you clean, you'll know." She wrote "when" not "if".
However I've heard this song described as being generous to Buckingham, in contrast to "Go Your Own Way" being scathing towards Nicks. If I emphasized the critical aspects of the lyrics of "Dreams" it's because (I think) they've been minimized or ignored.
Conversely: when Stevie objected to Lindsey having written "Packing up/Shacking up's all you want to do," she assumed he was accusing her of infidelity. Maybe she misinterpreted. He might have been unhappy she was less interested in commitment.
It's not possible for me to be anything but speculative. They know; I don't. From her perspective, maybe she thought she could have said a lot worse, and still would have been nothing but honest.
She believes--after she's gone--her ex-lover will be so lonely he'll sink into madness, i.e. clinical depression. The line about being washed clean: in one way it's conciliatory, but--like the rest of the song--it carries a sting, if you hear it in a different way.
By hoping he'll come out of it washed clean--sooner or later--she presumes he NEEDS to be cleaned. Until he learns to look at himself honestly--which ought to include re-evaluating his attitude toward women--he's going to remain lonely. That until he gets his shit together, no one will want to be with him.
My interpretation is based on how the lyrics criticize Buckingham, the most obvious example being "players only love you when they're playing." But there's more...
Of the three times she sings "Women, they will come and they will go," twice she precedes it with "Say..." In her lyrics, some things are left unsaid: similar to the way people actually talk. If she hadn't dropped these elements, the entire line would be:
The "you" and the quotation marks are only implied...but (I think) they're intended.
Overall, Stevie's saying, "Because I'm a woman, you didn't respect me as an individual. That's how you treat ALL women. Maybe you think you're open-minded, but you've got a lot to learn."
BTW, in the first chorus--between "Thunder only happens when it's raining," and the next line--ah, that drum riff! It's irresistible.
Word is, Stevie composed the song on piano in ten minutes. Christine McVie thought it was weak: "only three chords, and a couple of notes on the left hand." Then Lindsey added the guitar, with an eye (ear?) toward maintaining the unified feel, while including subtle differences in each part of the song. After the band finished arranging it, Christine might have felt differently...and if not then, well...maybe after "Dreams" hit #1?
Play it on headphones, and "listen carefully" to how Stevie's backing vocals are like a delayed echo of the preceding lines...and--hold on now--are those chimes I'm hearing? There are reasons you couldn't turn on a radio in the late '70s without hearing this song, and why Rumours sold 40 million.
Seriously... Do you write this shit for a living<br /> or do you simply have no life?<br /> <br /> I love music and looking at these comments,<br /> but jeeez. Who has the time to type all of<br /> that stuff? I wish I did.<br /> <br /> Don't mean to sound snide. I do thank you.
Well, your choice of words sounds slightly harsh, but...yeah, you're on target. I worked in data processing for 20 years but--having been on disability for the past two--I now have a lot of time. And music is very important to me: approx. 2000 titles in my collection. You could hardly imagine how elaborately I've personalized my iTunes library...but to me it seems natural, being an outlet for my biggest hobbies (music and graphic arts).<br /> <br /> I find it difficult to keep up with replying to my e-mail, because I sit down to write a quick message and am surprised to notice three hours have gone by, and "oh shit, here I go again." I try to be more brief, but I have something called schizotypal personality disorder (a kind of extreme introversion, common among people who were bullied a lot as kids, like I was); I prefer spending most of my time alone, and often regard people as threatening. One of the symptoms is "overelaborate speech." I'd guess it arises from feeling as if no one understands me. I used to write a great deal more (some of it for publication) but my health has put limits on my verbosity. The flood of words still forces its way out, once in awhile.<br /> <br /> At least I'm not a basement dweller; I like my place, in a quiet section of a medium-to-large sized city. My agoraphobia comes and goes; lately I've been enjoying being out in the world. I can't drive safely anymore, which helps; riding the buses & trains forces me to be around people more. A friend (who is protective and very observant) has noticed I'm not spending so much time in hibernation as I once did. I have a small number of close friends, which is what I prefer.
foreverdrone<br /> <br /> I think I can relate to you somehow.<br /> because I feel that way sometimes, but I don't know if I do have the same disorder.<br /> <br /> I hope you won't mind if I email you.<br />
@foreverdrone Read the behind the stuff drama about "Silver Springs". After Linsey write "Go Your Own Way", Stevie wrote "Silver Springs" in response, and it sounded just as angry. He didn't like the way it made him feel. So when Stevie wasn't needed in the studio one day, Lindsey convinced the band to exclude it from the album. And because with him, it was always his way or the highway, he convinced them to agree with him. He made Mick tell Stevie Nicks outside in the parking lot later on, when he decided to replace "Silver Springs" with "I Don't Want to Know", which was a song Stevie wrote before they joined Fleetwood Mac and were a duo. She was pretty angry, to say the least. And to add insult to injury, they put it as the b-side to "Go Your Own Way".
@foreverdrone do you think there's a chance she is saying that he wants to hold on because of loneliness and not love? and after being with other women he will know if he really loved her or the idea of having someone steady. So "you say women they'll come and go but I love YOU", but that's not true because you love what we have, not me...<br /> <br /> Imagine they both want out and process their loss in songs and then they have to sing this forever because it's the most successful ever. haha, what a pain in the ass.
this song is about guys abusing relationships mainly. they only want a relationship because of what they can get out of it. then once they realize what they have has turned into something special its already too late to save. theyve already ruined what they had and want to go back...theyve had their freedom and abused it. kind of like what ive been going through AND DONT LET THEM COME BACK!
ME(11:06:11 PM): be truthful HIM(11:06:17 PM): ok ME (11:06:50 PM): did you really have sex with people on your invasion trip cuz caitlin overheard you telling someone HIM(11:07:08 PM): not with people, with one girl ME (11:13:05 PM): so if we were still together would it be ok if i went out and fucked someone HIM signed off at 11:14:43 PM.
HE ACTUALLY HAD A LOSS OF WORDS FOR ONCE IN HIS FUCKIN LIFE. THIS IS HOW YOU SHOVE IT RIGHT IN THEIR FACE
@PuNkSrUs :( Awe, I'm sorry hun.<br />
The singer and her lover have broken up. The reason is because her lover wants to be free to do whatever he wants and doesn't want to so committed to the relationship.
She's saying that after he goes and lives his life of freedom, at the end of the day he'll just be lonely and reminiscing on the relationship they once had. The singer is hoping that he'll truly realize what he's lost.
She also says that she wanted to "wrap herself around his dreams" which basically means that she was going to be there for him in the long run when his days of partying or doing whatever it is he wants to do is over. When he's all done having his fun and living out his life he'll realize that he's all alone.
I always put something at the end that says there's hope. You know, 'When the rain washes you clean you'll know.' And that's an old Indian [Native American] custom...that if it rains ~ something like that ~ when somebody dies, if it rains their spirit is set free. ~In the Studio with Fleetwood Mac, www3.rocktrop
Dreams was uh about Lindsey and I ~ it was me trying to be philosophic once again, Whether or not I succeeded I don't know. I love the song Dreams. I never get tired of singing Dreams. ~Stevie Nicks, The Source, 1981
Love affairs are timeless, I mean, they don't change. That's why these songs [on Rumours] are timeless, I think. And that's why they're timeless to me and that's why I can walk out on the stage today and still sing them... and still feel the same way as when I wrote them is because I can remember so how I felt at that point, and I can remember the tears, and I can remember how hard it was for me to play Dreams the first time, for the whole band, because I know it would probably really upset Lindsey, and probably really upset Chris and John, and probably really upset Mick and really upset me. And if I could even get through it I'd be lucky. ~In the Studio with Fleetwood Mac, www3.rocktrop
When we were first recording the Rumours record we spent two months in Sausalito at the Record Plant, and as far as I'm concerned that's when we actually recorded the record. It took another eight months after that , but the tracks were all done there. Um, while they're doing all kinds of stuff and there's nothing for me to do, I went next door to Sly Stone's studio within the building, this big like black and red room with a kind of a stairway that went down into this like kind of tunnel thing where people would set up and play around this like light house sort of setup. And I took my little Fender Rhodes piano in there and I wrote Dreams. And I spent about an hour in there, and then I went back in to Fleetwood Mac and actually was brave enough to just play, play it for them, cause I really thought it was good, [smiles] and uh, and they liked it and we recorded it that night. That is the story of Dreams. ~Stevie Nicks, VH1 Storytellers, 1998
Lindsey writes Go Your Own Way and I write Dreams! I write philosophically, he writes angry! So yes, a lot of the stuff that, you know, little sentences or stuff that he would say would upset me! However, as a songwriter, I have to respect that he's gonna write about what's happening to him, and so am I. So I could never say to him, you know, back off! ... stop writing songs about me, because that was his life then and that's when the best songs are written and it doesn't really matter who breaks up with who at that point, that's when everybody writes the best songs ... and that's what happened on Rumours! I mean, maybe we would have killed each other if we hadn't have been able to write those songs, you know ... if we hadn't have been able to put that energy into the music and rise above it that way, then maybe we would have just gone totally freaked out on each other! ~BBC Radio 2 radio special, Rumours, November 11th, 1998.
Funny how every woman assumes that only guys can be like this.
Women can be every bit as bad as men, and many times are much worse. My ex-fiancee used the hell out of me, and got me so emotionally involved in her that I literally turned my life around for her. I bought her two cars, found a job in a city hundreds of miles away, and almost bought a house for us before I realised she was using me, and I broke it off.
Then she drained my bank account and ran off somewhere. Because of her I have no friends, I live in a city where I literally know noone, I am dirt broke, and I am so honest to god fucked up emotionally that I can't even speak to anyone without feeling like they're trying to screw me over.
:(
I hope things turned around for you. Kind of curious...
OMG. I'm sorry. But your right being an asshole is not gender biased.
@MithrandirBo after I read your comment, I have been thinking about you. I have come back here to check on you to see if you have updated. I hope so much, that you have healed and moved on and found a beautiful life and can dream again.
this song is true about many relationships and guys in general. they only want a relationship for what they can get out of it. then once they realize how much they really do like you its too late because theyve already ruined what they had and cant go back. then they'll tell you how much they miss you and miss what you had but DONT BE FOOLED you take them back and they abuse it again. stupid fucks...theyll never learn, they all just need a bunch of rattles and play pins cuz theyll never grow up and learn
But imagine it was marijuana brownies. Then Stevie's mouth would be full of brownies. That would be funny. I had cocaine brownies one time and they gave me brain damage. I got released from the nervous hospital last week. Stevie Nicks is hot. I had a picture of her back in the 70s and she was definately a boner of the month if ya know what I mean. I had lots of dreams about her, they were naughty dreams. Once I had a dream where I dressed up like Pocahontas and stuck a lawn dart into my skull, that was mostly from the coke. Stevie's voice isn't as raspy as that dude from AC/DC, I bet he put lots of cocaine on his cornflakes. I heard that Lindsay Buckinham got Herpes, but that may just be a rumour. If it wasn't he should write a song about dreaming that his Herpes went away and then he could sing it to school children and tell them not to have sex with crack whores, then Stevie can talk about her dreams. I had a dreams about her once, but that was a long time ago. I gotta take a dump. Later dudes.
F*ckin' hilarious!!! I just LOVE your style of humor . . . keeps 'em scratching their heads!!! BTW, I used your "Pocahontas" line as my Facebook status . . . thanks!!!
She wrote this with a little bit of hope that things would work out in the end for Lindsey and herself.
well, it wasn't the marijuana brownies
groovy song