Lucas received widespread exposure and critical acclaim after the release of his single "Ross Capicchioni" in 2015. In June 2017, he released his fourth mixtape, 508-507-2209, which was his first on a major label. On November 28, 2017, Lucas released his single "I'm Not Racist", which quickly went viral, gaining him further attention and praise. The video was nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Music Video at the 61st Grammy Awards. Lucas was formerly signed to Atlantic Records, until he announced his departure from the label in December 2018.
Since 2016, Lucas has also become known for remixing popular hip hop songs like "Gucci Gang" by Lil Pump, "Bank Account" by 21 Savage, "DNA" by Kendrick Lamar and many others. In October 2018, he announced his debut studio album ADHD, which was released on March 27, 2020. He began rapping at the age of 10, and attended South High Community School in Worcester.
Gary Maurice Lucas, Jr. was born on August 17, 1988, in Worcester, Massachusetts to a black father and a white mother. He began rapping at the age of 10, and attended South High Community School in Worcester.
Joyner Lucas first started rapping under the name G-Storm, but by 2007 had changed his stage name to Future Joyner and started working with his cousin Cyrus tha Great, forming a group called Film Skool Rejekts. That year they released Workprint: The Greatest Mixtape of All Time. Lucas released his first solo mixtape, titled Listen to Me, in 2011.[citation needed] After rapper Future came to prominence, Lucas dropped the "Future" from his name and continued as Joyner Lucas. He released his first mixtape under this new moniker in 2013, titled LFO's (Low Frequency Oscillators). His next mixtape, Along Came Joyner, was released on April 5, 2015. This mixtape contained his critically acclaimed "Ross Capicchioni". Following the success of the song, Lucas was featured in the 2015 BET Hip-Hop Awards Cypher. Originally intended to appear in the online-only cypher, he was later promoted to rap as part of the live broadcast cyphers based on the strength of his initial performance.
Lucas signed to Atlantic Records on September 21, 2016. Lucas went on to release a project titled 508-507-2209 on June 16, 2017, with Atlantic Records. The mixtape charted at #7 on the Heatseekers Albums chart on Billboard and contained the singles "I'm Sorry", "Ultrasound", "Just Like You" and "Winter Blues". Ever since 2016, Lucas has also become known for remixing popular hip hop songs.
On November 28, 2017, Lucas released the single "I'm Not Racist" via his YouTube channel. The music video quickly went viral and gained critical acclaim. The controversial song is about race and society, and race relations from the perspectives of a white man and a black man. The video was nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Music Video at the 61st Grammy Awards, but lost to Childish Gambino's "This Is America". Lucas and Chris Brown announced a collaborative project titled Angels & Demons on February 25, 2018, with the project's first single "Stranger Things" releasing the following day. On April 1, 2018, Lucas released the single "Frozen", a song focused on different forms of reckless driving. The second single from the Angels and Demons collaborative mixtape, "I Don't Die", was released on May 2.
On July 31, 2018, Lucas announced that he was forced to cancel appearances in the Australian and European legs of his I'm Kind of a Big Deal tour due to hoarseness and laryngitis. A month later, Lucas was featured on "Lucky You" from Eminem's tenth album, Kamikaze. The song debuted at number 6 on the Billboard Hot 100, marking Lucas' first top 10 entry on the chart. On October 12, 2018, Lucas announced that he would be releasing his debut studio album entitled ADHD. He also announced a single from the album that would be released the following Wednesday. The song, entitled "I Love", was released as the lead single from ADHD, which was released on March 27, 2020. It was preceded by nine singles from October 2018 to March 2020, the time before release.
On August 17, 2020, Lucas announced the release date of his debut EP, Evolution. It was released on October 23, 2020. It was preceded by two singles, "Snitch" and "Fall Slowly" featuring Ashanti.
Lucas has cited several artists as influences in his music, but he cites Eminem as his biggest musical influence. He also revealed he was influenced by Will Smith in his song "Will", which he would release a remix of featuring Will Smith himself on May 15, 2020. He cites Jay-Z as one of his influences too.
Joyner Lucas shares a son named Joyner Messiah Lucas (born February 20, 2016) with Carmen Julissa Ayala, whom he had an off and on romantic relationship with. Lucas tells the story of his son's conception in his song "Forever" on his mixtape 508-507-2209. Joyner Messiah Lucas is loved and adored by his father and referenced in many of his songs. He has also made cameos in his father's music videos. Most recently he played Will Smith's son Jaden Smith in the video of "Will".
Lucas has revealed that the title of his album ADHD comes from the fact that he was diagnosed with ADHD as a child. He explained that people surrounding him, including his own parents, made him feel like he was not normal and treated him differently as a result. Eventually, he would act out and get sent to an alternative school after expulsion.
Feuds
Logic
According to Lucas, when he was on Tech N9ne's tour bus, he heard some records from Tech's album The Storm. Lucas expressed interest on collaborating with Logic on the song "Sriracha" and felt that he could add to the display of fast-flow rapping, and Tech acquiesced. Logic was originally slated to be the only feature on "Sriracha", but when he spent over six months to deliver his verse, Lucas hopped on the track to offer his own. Joyner stated that when they got the record back, he could tell that Logic was not "too happy" about him being on the track once he heard it. On his remix of Future's "Mask Off", Joyner, unhappy by the work Logic turned in after taking nearly half a year to edit his verse, directly addressed the disappointing display. Both he and Tech N9ne were upset with Logic for not emulating the style of quick flow on the song.
After Logic's hit song "1-800-273-8255" peaked at number three on the Billboard Hot 100, Joyner Lucas immediately took offense and argued that the track was named in order to bring direct competition to his project, 508-507-2209. In a later interview, he called Logic "corny" and in another incident, he said that he thinks that Logic "can rap" but feels like "he tries to prove that he's black too much for me." With both Logic's single and Lucas' mixtape dealing with the issue of mental health representation and resource allocation, Lucas was careful to not slam the track too hard.
When Logic dropped his song "Yuck" from his mixtape Bobby Tarantino II in March 2018, the veiled diss inside the song was quickly spotted by Lucas and his fans, despite Logic saying that there was no diss in the song. Seemingly nonplussed by the insult, Lucas dared Logic to call him out directly on Twitter. That same month, Joyner took aim at Logic's song "44 More" and his album Everybody on his remix of BlocBoy JB's "Look Alive".
In 2019, the two rappers ended their feud, which was revealed when Logic made a guest appearance on Joyner Lucas' song "ISIS", the third single from ADHD. Lucas kept the name of the collaborator a secret until he released the song.
Hopsin
In September 2018, when a fan asked Los Angeles rapper Hopsin on Twitter who would win in a rap battle between him and Joyner Lucas, Hopsin replied, "That's a dumb question that I'm sure you already know the answer to." Not long after, Lucas commented, "Hold up. @Hopsin wtf is that supposed to mean???" In his response, Hopsin stated that he would "b[r]eak his soul" and also dissed Logic in the comment. This dispute would prove to be short-lived, when in less than two days Hopsin shared a screenshot of a FaceTime call with Lucas, indicating that they finally made peace, but still wanted people to consider who would beat the other in a rap battle. While the majority favored Hopsin, Lucas was adamant without arguing.
Tory Lanez
Joyner Lucas' feud with Canadian recording artist Tory Lanez began over matters similar to his beef with Hopsin. On November 19, 2018, Lanez claimed that he was a better rapper than Joyner Lucas on an Instagram Live session. Incredulous, Lucas immediately responded by inviting Lanez to a battle rapping challenge and telling him to let the public decide who is better. The next day, Lanez dropped a freestyle over Eminem's "Lucky You", of which Lucas made a guest appearance on. In less than 24 hours, Joyner responded with his freestyle over "Litty" by Meek Mill featuring Tory Lanez, also targeting rapper Trippie Redd, who joined Tory's Instagram Live and slandered Joyner's name as well. Shortly after, Lanez retaliated with his own freestyle of "Litty", titled "Litty Again", taking shots at Joyner's collaboration with Eminem. Lucas' answer song was a freestyle of Kodak Black's "Zeze". On the track, he mentions Tory's being accused of plagiarism in 2016, when listeners noticed that the ending of Lanez's song "4am Flex" was similar to Kendrick Lamar's "The Art of Peer Pressure". Joyner also accuses him of copying rapper Don Q's flow on his 2017 Funkmaster Flex freestyle. On November 23, Tory posted on Instagram a video of him declaring victory in the feud and celebrating. Displeased, Lucas reposted the video with his own comment, with a reference to Lanez as a singer.
The end of this rivalry was made public on August 8, 2019, when Joyner Lucas and Tory Lanez collaborated on their remix of "Suge" by DaBaby.
The Grammy Awards are held annually by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. Joyner has two Grammy nominations altogether; one for Best Music Video for “I’m Not Racist” and one for Best Rap Song for “Lucky You” by Eminem.
Forever
JOYNER LUCAS Lyrics
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I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
You will eventually
Some day
One day
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older I hope you don't hold this shit against me
And this is nothin' but your daddy's thoughts when he was feelin' empty
And everything ain't always what it seems like on the outside
I fought so many tears so that you would never see the outcry
I never wanted kids until I lived and went through hard times
And became a man that fell in love with someone that my heart finds
But you know how that shit go
Young and reckless, different women part time
And I wasn't ready for that life yet, I was in my dark prime
Me and your moms ain't get along and she gave me a hard time
I really think that we just crossed paths at the wrong time
I wasn't happy when she said she was pregnant
Probably the worst news of my life, that shit was so depressing
I told her she should get an abortion and I really meant it
I'm sorry that I said that shit, yo I was trippin'
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older I hope you don't hold this shit against me
I'm sorry, yo
And I never wanted a broken home to raise you from a distance
Yeah I'll admit it, I was scared of that type of commitment
Even hopes of a miscarriage, anything bad that could happen
That'd get me out of that situation, I was livid
I felt like shit about my thoughts, that wasn't me, I'm different
Plus I was dealing with some demons that I couldn't live with
I told her she should get an abortion and I really meant it
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older I hope you don't hold this shit against me
Hope you don't hate me, I was selfish, I hope you forgive me
Hope you forgive me
And I still remember your baby shower like it was yesterday
And to your mom it was special, me, just another day
I wish that you could see the pictures, all the fake phony smilin'
Had to pretend that I was happy, deep down I was cryin'
Ma asked if I was okay, I turned around and looked away
I was dryin' all my tears, look back to say yeah
I was lyin', goddamn, how the hell I get here?
This is it, this supposed to be my life
This ain't how I pictured it
I never felt so damn alone, but it was more than often
One of the worst days of my life, and I ain't even lyin'
We argued when we came home, I blame myself for all this
I think that I was holding a grudge 'cause she ain't get an abortion
I'm sorry
(Fuck)
Damn
And I know you can't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older I hope you don't hold this shit against me
I can't believe I tried to hurt you, I hope you forgive me
Please, please
And everything ain't always what it seems like on the outside
I fight so many tears so that you would never see the outcry
I sacrifice my life so you could live it
Peace, want to give you things my father couldn't give to, me
I think I was raised wrong, and that's just what it is to me
And if you ask him then his ass gon' probably disagree
But whatever, whatever
And nothing's ever made me cry as much as you, I swear
Your smile gives me motivation and some new ideas
My worst fear is always you not knowing who I am
'Cause I been on the road dreamchasing for you out here
I was the first thing that you opened your eyes to
And the last one that you said goodnight to
I went home and cried to
And I bawled my eyes out, and then watched you
Glad I got you, that's a blatant fact
And every negative thing I said I swear I take it back
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older I hope you don't hold this shit against me
I hope you understand I love you more than I love myself
And this is nothin' but your daddy's thoughts when he was feelin' empty
I was feelin' empty
I been feelin' empty
I put my emotions in this music when I'm feelin' empty
I hope you forgive me
Please, please
The song "Forever" by Joyner Lucas is a heartfelt and poignant tribute to his child, as well as a reflection on his own experiences parenting. Despite the fact that his child may not understand his words at present, Lucas hopes that they will eventually come to understand the message he is expressing. He acknowledges that he was not always the best father, and that he made mistakes in his relationships with their mother and in his own feelings about having a child. He expresses regret for some of the choices he made and the words he said, hoping that his child will not hold those actions against him.
Throughout the song, Lucas reveals the complex emotions and struggles that he experienced upon learning that he was going to be a father. At first, he was not prepared for such a significant commitment, and even considered asking his partner to have an abortion. He was scared of the type of life that he would have to live and the thought of not being a present father was a source of major concern for him. However, with time, he came to value the importance of family and being there for his child, recognizing that this was something that he desired deeply despite his initial reluctance.
Line by Line Meaning
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
The singer acknowledges that the child may not comprehend his message at the moment, but they will as they grow older.
And when you get older I hope you don't hold this shit against me
The singer hopes that the child does not bear a grudge against him for his past mistakes.
I hope you understand I love you more than life itself
The singer expresses his love for the child and how it is a significant part of his life.
And this is nothin' but your daddy's thoughts when he was feelin' empty
The artist reveals that the song is his personal thoughts and emotions when he was feeling lost and unfulfilled.
And everything ain't always what it seems like on the outside
The artist acknowledges that appearances can be deceiving and not everything is as it seems on the surface.
I fought so many tears so that you would never see the outcry
The singer tried his best to hide his emotions and not let the child see him cry or be unhappy.
I never wanted kids until I lived and went through hard times
The singer reflects on how he did not want to have children until he matured and went through challenging life experiences.
But you know how that shit go
The artist is aware that such events often happen in life.
Young and reckless, different women part time
The artist recalls how he was not ready for committed relationships and enjoyed dating multiple partners.
And I wasn't ready for that life yet, I was in my dark prime
The artist confesses that he was not ready to settle down at that point in his life and was struggling with personal issues.
Me and your moms ain't get along and she gave me a hard time
The singer admits that his relationship with the child's mother was strained, and she made things difficult for him.
I really think that we just crossed paths at the wrong time
The artist believes that the timing of their encounter was not ideal, leading to issues between him and the child's mother.
I wasn't happy when she said she was pregnant
The singer did not feel positive about the news of the child's mother's pregnancy.
Probably the worst news of my life, that shit was so depressing
The singer considers the news of the pregnancy as one of the most terrible things that has happened to him.
I told her she should get an abortion and I really meant it
The singer admits that he asked the child's mother to terminate the pregnancy and was sincere about it.
I'm sorry that I said that shit, yo, I was trippin'
The artist apologizes for his previous negative remarks about the pregnancy and acknowledges that he was acting irrationally.
And I never wanted a broken home to raise you from a distance
The artist reveals that he did not desire a situation where he would not be living with the child under the same roof.
Yeah I'll admit it, I was scared of that type of commitment
The singer confesses that he was hesitant to commit to raising the child due to his fear of taking on those responsibilities.
Even hopes of a miscarriage, anything bad that could happen
The singer reveals that he was so anxious about the pregnancy that he even contemplated terrible events that might have terminated it.
That'd get me out of that situation, I was livid
The artist reflects on his anger and frustration towards the circumstances he found himself in.
I felt like shit about my thoughts, that wasn't me, I'm different
The artist acknowledges that his negative thoughts about the pregnancy were not characteristic of his true nature, but rather the result of his stress and anxiety.
Plus I was dealing with some demons that I couldn't live with
The artist admits that he was grappling with some personal issues that he found difficult to cope with.
Hope you don't hate me, I was selfish, I hope you forgive me
The singer seeks the child's forgiveness for his selfish behavior and for the previous mistakes he made.
And I still remember your baby shower like it was yesterday
The artist vividly recalls the day of the child's baby shower.
And to your mom it was special, me, just another day
The singer reflects on how the child's mother considered the baby shower to be a significant event, while for him, it was just another ordinary day.
I wish that you could see the pictures, all the fake phony smilin'
The singer wishes that the child could see the photos from the baby shower, which he perceives to be a collection of forced and false smiles.
Had to pretend that I was happy, deep down I was cryin'
The singer concealed his true emotions at the baby shower and faked being happy when he was, in fact, deeply upset.
Ma asked if I was okay, I turned around and looked away
The artist reveals how the child's grandmother inquired about his well-being but he could not answer her question.
I was drying all my tears, look back to say yeah
The artist tried to dry his tears and responded positively to the grandmother's question, even though he was crying inside.
I was lyin', goddamn, how the hell I get here?
The singer acknowledges that he lied when he claimed to be okay and wonders how he ended up in that difficult situation.
This is it, this supposed to be my life
The singer acknowledges that his current status as a father should have been his life path.
This ain't how I pictured it
The artist admits that his life did not turn out the way he had hoped it would.
I never felt so damn alone, but it was more than often
The artist reveals how often he felt lonely, despite his family and friends being around him most of the time.
One of the worst days of my life, and I ain't even lyin'
The artist considers the day of the baby shower as one of the worst days of his life.
We argued when we came home, I blame myself for all this
The singer reveals that he and the child's mother had an argument after returning home from the baby shower, and he takes responsibility for the situation.
I think that I was holding a grudge 'cause she ain't get an abortion
The artist admits that he was harboring negative emotions towards the child's mother because she did not terminate the pregnancy as he had wished.
Damn
An expression of frustration, anger, or sadness.
And I know you can't understand my words but you will eventually
The singer acknowledges that the child may not comprehend his message right now but is confident that they will in the future.
I can't believe I tried to hurt you, I hope you forgive me
The singer regrets trying to cause the child harm in the past and seeks their forgiveness.
And every negative thing I said I swear I take it back
The artist would retract all the negative things he said in the past if he could.
I put my emotions in this music when I'm feelin' empty
The artist turns to music as an outlet for his emotions when he feels lonely and unfulfilled.
Please, please
An appeal for forgiveness and understanding.
I been feelin' empty
The singer admits to feeling empty and incomplete.
I hope you forgive me
The artist earnestly desires the child's forgiveness and understanding.
Peace, want to give you things my father couldn't give to, me
The artist wishes to provide the child with things that he did not receive from his own father and desires for the child to live a better life.
I think I was raised wrong, and that's just what it is to me
The artist reflects on his upbringing and believes that he was raised wrongly or inadequately.
And if you ask him then his ass gon' probably disagree
The singer expects that his father would refute his claims about his upbringing.
But whatever, whatever
The artist does not care about his father's opinion and accepts his own perception of his upbringing.
And nothing's ever made me cry as much as you, I swear
The singer affirms that the child is the most significant cause of his tears and emotions.
Your smile gives me motivation and some new ideas
The singer derives inspiration and new ideas from the child's smile and cheerful demeanor.
My worst fear is always you not knowing who I am
The singer fears that the child may not recognize or acknowledge him in the future, potentially causing a rift in their relationship.
'Cause I been on the road dreamchasing for you out here
The artist has been pursuing his dreams and working hard on the road, motivated by his desire to provide for the child.
I was the first thing that you opened your eyes to
The artist feels proud that he was the first person the child saw upon opening their eyes for the first time.
And the last one that you said goodnight to
The singer feels privileged that he is the last person the child talks to before sleeping at night.
I went home and cried to
The singer admits that he also cries after putting the child to bed.
And I bawled my eyes out, and then watched you
The artist cried before watching over the child after putting them to bed.
Glad I got you, that's a blatant fact
The artist is elated to have the child in his life and sees it as an undeniable fact.
Lyrics © Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
Written by: Joyner Lucas
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[Chorus]
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older, I hope you don't hold this shit against me
I hope you understand I love you more than life itself
And this is nothin' but your daddy's thoughts when he was feelin' empty
[Verse 1]
And everything ain't always what it seems like on the outside
I fought so many tears so that you would never see the outcry
I never wanted kids until I lived and went through hard times
And became a man that fell in love with someone that my heart finds
But you know how that shit go, young and reckless, different women part time
And I wasn't ready for that life yet, I was in my dark prime
Me and your moms ain't get along and she gave me a hard time
I really think that we just crossed paths at the wrong time
I wasn't happy when she said she was pregnant
Probably the worst news of my life, that shit was so depressing
I told her she should get an abortion and I really meant it
I'm sorry that I said that shit, yo I was trippin'
[Chorus]
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older, I hope you don't hold this shit against me
I'm sorry, yo
[Verse 2]
And I never wanted a broken home to raise you from a distance
Yeah I'll admit it, I was scared of that type of commitment
Even hopes of a miscarriage, anything bad that could happen
That'd get me out of that situation, I was livid
I felt like shit about my thoughts, that wasn't me, I'm different
Plus I was dealing with some demons that I couldn't live with
I told her she should get an abortion and I really meant it, damn
[Chorus]
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older I hope you don't hold this shit against me
Hope you don't hate me, I was selfish, I hope you forgive me
I hope you forgive me (please forgive me)
[Verse 3]
And I still remember your baby shower like, it was yesterday
And to your mom it was special, me, just another day
I wish that you could see the pictures, all the fake phony smilin'
Had to pretend that I was happy, deep down I was cryin'
Ma asked if I was okay, I turned around and looked away
I was dryin' all my tears, look back to say "Yeah"
I was lyin', goddamn, how the hell I get here?
This is it, this supposed to be my life, this ain't how I pictured it
I never felt so damn alone, but it was more than often
One of the worst days of my life, and I ain't even lyin'
We argued when we came home, I blame myself for all this
I think that I was holding a grudge cause she ain't get an abortion
I'm sorry (fuck) damn
[Chorus]
And I know you can't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older, I hope you don't hold this shit against me
I can't believe I tried to hurt you, I hope you forgive me
Please, please
[Verse 4]
And everything ain't always what it seems like on the outside
I fight so many tears so that you would never see the outcry
I sacrificed my life so you could live it, peace
Want to give you things my father couldn't give to, me
I think I was raised wrong and that's just what it is to me
And if you ask him then his ass gon' probably disagree
But whatever, whatever...
And nothing's ever made me cry as much as you, I swear
Your smile gives me motivation and some new ideas
My worst fear is always you not knowing who I am
Cause I been on the road dreamchasing for you out here
I was the first thing that you opened your eyes to
And the last one that you said goodnight to
I went home and cried to
And I bawled my eyes out and then watched you
Glad I got you, that's a blatant fact
And every negative thing I said I swear I take it back
[Chorus]
I know you don't understand my words but you will eventually
And when you get older, I hope you don't hold this shit against me
I hope you understand I love you more than I love myself
And this is nothin' but your daddy's thoughts when he was feelin' empty
I was feelin' empty, I been feelin' empty
I put my emotions in this music when I'm feelin' empty
I hope you forgive me
Please, please
[Voicemail]
Yo wassup, this is Joyner
I'm unable to take your call right now
Leave me a brief message and I'll get back to you, peace
[Brief Message]
Ayo nigga, this is like the twelfth time I've call you, dawg
I'm sick of getting this fucking voicemail, my nigga
I need my money today, nigga!
Not tomorrow, not next week, nigga, I want it now, bro!
Don't have me pull up and, and stunt!
You know how the fuck I do, my nigga!
That's the last thing you want, so get that paper right, bro
I'm not fucking around!
@ArturoGonzalez-tn2yd
I had my daughter at 18
That shit was a struggle because my baby mama cheated on me and they tried taking my daughter away from me but I stood my ground and did everything possible to have my rights
And now this year she will be turning 3 years old
It’s hard but I love my daughter with everything I have
They grow up fast
Wish you the best with your son :)
@Dahliaaa01
A man who admits this and regrets every word he said. Is a man.
@TheInfantry98
Brownie Bitez What the fuck? Your backwards
@Miintys
@@TheInfantry98 how
@15klisa58
Brownie Bitez no a man won’t say nothing like that now that’s a man
@samjones7196
Yq Lisa Songs it’s better to rise after a fall then never to have fallen
@yeeterknektikus4613
Or a man is just a man -_-
@MagicalAces24
Joyner doesn't make music, he makes art.
@warriorsanjay
lol
@pablokamurasi723
Yip you said it
@siraeonjay
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